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GOODBYE WEEKLY CHEEK | Our last episode

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode, we're saying goodbye to The Weekly Cheek and officially introducing the third Cheek co-founder, Catherine.

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Hello, I'm christin Parisinato and I'm Hannah Ferguson and where co founders a Cheek Media co. This is the Weekly Cheek Podcast. Before we start the podcast, I'd like to acknowledge that we are in stolen lands of the Yager and Trouble people and that sovereignty was never seated. Welcome back to the week. So weird has yeah because even when we've been to people, they've been over there on zoom. Yeah. Yeah, and it's week because usually I'm just looking you in one on one, but now I'm like, I'm so everyone. Katherine is here, like Catherine ourious partner. Katherine does not want to be here. She's like, before we started, she said, this is going to be the hardest day of my life. Just beat rude, which is frankly rude, fun but hard. I'm having funds Like, you're gonna have to edit out everything I said. I'm like, that's the opposite of the point of view being here. It's because everyone wants to know your secrets. Imagine if I did that then it was just you and I are talking. I'm still just as mysterious. Yeah, However, the video to see Katherine physically or I just reader like buzz out every time she says anything. So this is the final episode, the grand finale. Honestly, when you we put up the announcement that you were stepping back, everyone like as much as everyone understood by comprehending and reading the statement, it was maybe a hundred and fifty messages like what about the podcast? And I was like a fun sake, like yeah, well, I think we kind of said like, uh, we were going to like announce that I was stepping back and also announced the podcast was ending, but we didn't really do the podcast. On the following Tuesday. People must have been like nothing came out, Yes, yeah, because I think it was like kind of implied. But then a few people like ask you if you're going to do it just on your own. That's actually super fucked up to me, can you imagine? So welcome back to the Weekly Check. It's just like lots of people do solo podcasts and they're really good, but it's just the format is like conversation, and that's the thing is that no matter how interesting it was, which frankly like I'm not that fun unless I'm in conversation, like me just talking. That's just insane to me, Like I would just be sitting in a room like and so anyway, and then I laughed and other people would listen to them. There's just no world where they'd be like, oh, it's just as good, and that the last you have to rebrand it to a new thing. But I just as much as I understand that people can do solo podcasts and they can be really informative, the idea of Cheek is always conversation, so it kind of yeah anyway, also this is getting released on cheeks second birthday. Oh my gosh. When we started it, it was the two days before the US election, remember that week being such a huge week and we had and it was the morning after the Queensland state election. Yes, I remember this, and we so we were planning it for like three or four months before we started, and I remember even longer. Maybe we had a group chat on Instagram and you and I would just send back these back and forth. These most just Christians that were like say length and then every few days Katherin would come in and be like fuck, sorry, and I would feel so bad. I was like, Katherine is just going to kill us, Like we should have never used I know we've said this before on the podle, which why do we use Instagram group chat? That's the worst place to start a business ever, because even you know on Facebook, like if you open a group chat, it takes you to the last message you Yes, Instagram doesn't do that. You just have that actually find it yourself manually. Yeah. Also, there was no like media section. You have to scroll back to find the pictures because you had done all these mock up Catherine, and all these like beautiful mock ups, and then every time you want to look like sc you've missed four hundreds. Like Kristen, it's at about one twenty that we get into the mock ups, So please go back and look. I remember that happened to be one. I think one night...

I was out for dinner and then it was the two of you doing it and I had to catch up after it, and I was like times, I'm just like, oh god, Dad, I know what's happened. It was about to logo as well. I was just like, yes, the logo and us arguing about the name for ages. It was just back and forward and it was hundreds and then when we just oh my gosh. So I also want to say, poor Katherine, I'm about to make her suffer. So last week I was like, Katherine, I've got a problem. The every Instagram tile that we have has at cheek media code. You thought you realized it's a problem. Do you realize that your what do you mean? I just said that. I didn't listen to you at the time, and it was only like a week later that I was like, holy fun, this is incorrect. And then I was like, Katherine, I need the dot. Knew that dot couldn't be so transformed it out of the handles. It's incorrect. Not that I actually think like it's obviously not a huge if someone was like if you typed it, yeah, it's just like it's incorrect. I don't know why. A few comments were like, just so you know, the tile don't have the dott in there. Thank you somebody. I threw a few comments. There's always somebody attention to detail. I guess, yeah, just so you know, thank you working on it, working it. Sorry, why don't you get a hobby? Why don't you read the title except in the corner. That was my main problem with putting the dot in it. It was just going to everything everything I thought your problem was Like at the end of the podcast, we always say, like find us on Instagram at cheek Media say that. But yeah, anyway, honestly, I don't think it's a huge change. Huge I think people can. I don't know why. I was just talking about really specific cheek things. Sometimes we're like post like a really serious child, like look at this news head load, it's blocked up and then there's like the winking in the corner and it's like a murder and I postly I'm going, oh, Brandy, the most violent rape, and it's like in the corner of the cheap doesn't feel quite right, doesn't like maybe we need like a serious one, like maybe it's both eyes open. Maybe, yeah, you can get into that. Yeah, that's another one. All emotion. Yes, with the cheek emerges fun. Actually, it's a great idea. Sorry you've actually come on this podcast. I can give you ten things about it's just a little briefing session. Yeah, if people answering is like the mastermind behind all of our graphic design. So the reason that pit cheek looks so aesthetic is not because of christin our eyes, because of Catherine Ascended. Ascended that you would say that, I mean definitely agree that fit. It was definitely as we said, you know what, actually Katherine do not like Katherine will send colors and I'll just be really difficult. You're already remember that. But at the start, you would send a palette, I'd be like that pink, yeahs not on. And it was always the pink that I was bothered by. CHRISTI was like, what's your problem with the pinks? And I was like, I don't know. I just don't like that. My god. I think because I think you were, but you had specific feedback on the peaks, like you were like, yeah, warmer than that. You know why. I've never thought I was passionate about color until you're in the moment and you realize this is I think the yellow, the pop of Fluo yellow was really controversial. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, because I remember you sent it and I was like, hate the flu and then I feel like thirty minutes I was like obsessed with the I was like, oh, I don't know that, and I was like I'm not getting rid of it, and I...

...remember you were like I fucking hate that ship, and then I was like, I just don't really, I don't feel as particular way, and you were like, well, it's do or die. We're not doing cheek without the flu ro. Old me is dead to nothing. I'm leaving. I'm leaving this business. But it's funny because I think that always a little but especially the start, like everything mattered, and I think what was hard, especially was when we were starting out, we had this particular vision that it's not really this, it's not really what it's come to be. But it's interesting case. I think everything we've done is still applicable, Like the name is still applicable, the branding is still applicable to what we're doing, and actually, like, I think that's a weird marker of good not I don't think've had a strategy, but like for us to have evolved, but it all to have been still matchy matchy to what we wanted, it's like quite good as well. I think, Yeah, I feel like when we started we really almost something like um, I think we wanted to be broader, like something like Refinery twenty nine on the final to a diet or a culmination of all those things, but different still. I think it was supposed to be a more progressive, better version of much better version of Mom and me at where we were going a younger audience, much progressive but really broad. I think that as it came into the election, was really clear that people liked our political takes, and after election has been able to being able to streamline back out and go we can expand again. And the sex and work content was always something that people really drawn to, like when you did the quiet quitting articles like one of the best we've ever done, and the Kardashians one that came out, they were like the best ship we ever And I was surprised because I thought after the election like people would be like, well, I've got what I needed, I'm out now, And actually quite a few people did do that. They were like, see your scots out, don't need you anymore, but rude, Yeah, I think we're very interested. But it was like it's kind of an interesting evolution and now things just timing. Yeah, and now everyone knows we all hate each other and that's in massive There's been such like torment behind the scenes. What you're going to clear the room and have a fun's finale, keep listening and people are going to be like listening, like, oh my god, they're going to reveal their secrets, and I don't wish I had secrets. The only thing I will say is that for people who are asked, who are saying to me, can't we to see what you do next? Um, I already do a lot of stuff. It really won't be anything. And I mean eventually maybe I might do something, but like I'm already doing enough. Sorry I think. But it's also like the other part of it is that people it's kind of speaks to that culture of like hustling in that people are like, oh my god, she must be leaving to do something something, and it's like, you know, you can actually just really have a very full life. And I think it's more than just like the future of chicken. We have different visions and that's really what it is like. But as literally as we're talking on like Katherine, could you put the dots in all the tiles? And I actually when Kristen was like, I want to say about like but like when it's like, um, when it's like an ally LGBT day or something, well, when you have something to write on, could you please write on that? Because I'm straight and that's embarrassing and I'm going to need you back please, as a straight person I need and it's the last free foot content you're going to get only from its only two out of three feet. Well for us, I did not prepare my feet for this podcast. I have every time i've edited, I'm like, I really should just like wear socks or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then every time I don't, I forget. You should have won me to wear socks. Yeah, sorry, you should be free theater, in valuable outset. I can't just show them off like this so exactly easily. No, I think that when when a few weeks ago, this is essentially what has happened in my view, And you can come in and be like when we went into Sydney about a month ago, and I think I've been on both of...

...them. Gone, was that a month? It was? At the fuck it's been it's been a month? Yeah it was? It was three or four weeks ago, yes, yeah, um. And we went down to interview so we've got it like a limited series podcast coming out that are just intewing four men basically. And when we went down to city we did three of the interviews. Chris and I went and I was there two days earlier than Christ came and met me and Christen had a lovely time where she took her bags and dropped them at the wrong oatail because there were to each other. Yes, also us travel it was really bad. It was it was very out of character, aw full time and someone tricked me into buying a fruit cut by the way made me so bad. So I got to the airport after like two ubers canceled the third. I was like fifteen minutes away, and so I was like, ship, I should have just driven blah blah blah. Anyway, so I finally get to the airport and then they had to unpack my entire bag because the sound equipment looked like a bit sauce and like was so tightly packed. They had to unpack it so they can see everything. Like literally part of the mic stand had like just metal rod that was just loose, like two metal rods. Anyway, so I finally did that, got through security with not that much time. I wasn't like late, but um like the plane was like getting ready to board by the time I finally got to the gate, and I was like, oh, I like, do you have a bit of time to grab a coffee? Go and grab a coffee, um like made in order, and then the woman was like, oh, do you want a free salad? And I was like, oh sorry. She said do you want a free salad or like croissante or something? And I was like, oh, um, what's in the salad? And then she's like, oh, just like um, watermelon. And I was like okay, yeah, okay, that sounds good. And then she's just like okay, so the coffee and the fruit salad that illars And I was like what salad she said? She said fruit salad, but you were like free free. You're very specific about the fruit exactly pretty that I thought. She said free salad, Yeah, exactly, she won. Yeah, it was like what would be in exact because I didn't know if it was going to be like cheese I was or something. Yeah anyway, and then MS so tricked And also like I don't know if anyone else gets this, but like salad, fruit and coffee, I don't like that it's a wetness. And then like exactly, not exactly, especially if it's like the worst is like if you if you drink dairy milk. I don't know who's doing them anymore. Canceled. Surely you would do you drink? Fay, I got to remember back to my order at the cafe. That's not trying to think I can remember what you ordered. Nobody even know. She she remains, Um, I'll be giving. I'm going to like dooming in on your stories, trying to figure out what kind of milks in your coffee. Um, but you're like dairy milk and pineapple. Oh yeah, it's yeah, that disgust I think, like opens your mouth. Um, it doesn't it like disintegrate your like your easier way at your Yeah, everyone's a bit alert to fine, like mildly poisonous something like what we talking about my counting blood ones? Yeah, yeah, I ate too much of it. It really burns, yeah, like cidic. Anyway, so I got to enjoy fruit salad was not free? Was that the story? Yes? Um? So anyway, that was my morning. I was disheveled, and I didn't really tell you because I was like, we're saying that Overtael and then you've gone to the wrong overteel. And then we're having lunch in...

Sydney, wh Christine arrived and she goes, there's something wrong with your booking, And I said, I don't think I came up that are did no, no, you said certain wrong with your booking, yes, And I was like what do you mean and you're like, well, I went shop my bags and they're like yeah, what's the name, and you're like had focus and they were like we don't have anything in here and Christmas like and they'll just leave your bags anyway where they Yeah. The guy was like it must be me, like I'm not very good with this system kind of thing. And then I was like I didn't really give a funk at this point or either I'm like, yeah, I figured out, but I was like no, I've already dropped my bag and my head in the system, like I've confirmed. And then I got the phone out and then you were like it's just over there or something, and I was like, no, no, it's not. Anyway, we went to the hotel and I knew you'd had a morning and it's also they were five apart stay in hotel. Yeah, and it was called like Darling Harbor and Darling Square anyway something and they must have us happened all the time like anyway, Well, the guy asked me, He's like, are you sure it's this hotel because there is another one at Darling Square and I was like, no, it's definitely, absolutely and so we went over there and you were like, you know, pick up my bag because I went to the plan not to check in. And then he took us upstairs and I was like, here, we'll get something from the bar, which form and we just sat there and out of the window for a while, and then we had this really fancy and it was as soon as we got there. So then I mean, obviously it's clearly because we spent the next three days lying next to each other in bed virtually, it's clearly fine. And then you're being like, would you still want to do this? Would you do it? Would you hate me if I didn't like that? It's like when people turned to their paths late at night, would you still love me if I was away? Crispin? To Chrispin, I was like, so what do you still spagged me as a person? But my answer to all of those was like, you can do whatever you want. Yeah, but I think it's hard because now the other part of it is. And then something that's probably not talked about that much is like there is probably this inherent feeling of like being watched even though it's not actually a real thing, but you're like, as something that you've both built and now I'm going to do it even in years to come, it's still something that like wouldn't have grown to what it is without both of you. So when I make a decision, I'm still like that needs to be respectful of what I think you too, even if you don't give a fuck to me. It's like it's something that always needs to be considered because I we all know what it's like to watch a project that you've worked on get scrilled on. Yes. Yes, So it's kind of one of those things where even though you might be like run run, go run, do whatever you want, there's still something that you're like, I was pivotal in the foundations of that, and it does like it's still part of what you've done in your life, Like it's still a huge thing. So it's always like when I make a decision, I'm like, what would you think or and if if it really is that much of a deal to me, I'll always be like, what do you reckon? Yeah, you know, just get your opinion on it, because it's still like cheek is still a thing that you created, and it's disrespectful to not consider the reputation and what I want to do that would align you know. Um, But I think the conversation was basically and I think I was. I actually had a really bad mental health month last month, so when we went to Sydney, I was like, I need a few days. And it was like literally annual leave to go and do cheek work. So it wasn't really a holiday. We're relaxing, but I did eat lots of good food and I think we did have a nice time. We went to Julie Gillard, it was really nice and we were doing the interviews and I like, I was like, oh my god, I just feel so good, Like I feel like I'm back. And I said that to you when your right, I was like, even just being in Sydney, just like I just feel like I'm back behind the wheel of my fucking own life. And then I said like, when you know I don't do cheek for a day, I feel like really distressed and like my cup isn't full. And one of the things you said was like, well, my cup is full from all the other things in my life, and when I don't have cheek my cup is like really empty. It really...

...re energizes me, and I think that always um the discussions that we've had have been that I want Cheek to grow and become a team and become like a competitive media company. But You've always maintained that you want to have multiple things going at once. You love your full time job, you both do. You love your work, and that's always been the big the big thing, whereas Cheek has always been my big thing. And I think that, like, and to be fair, like literally every time I've had to tell someone in my life, like what's happening, the way I describe it is like probably the most generous thing anyone's ever done. That you said to me, like I don't want to do you the disservice of like just wanting to keep Cheek exactly how it is. If you want to grow a team and you want to do all these things, like I don't want to if there's every an investor, if there's every opportunity, and I'm like not fully there, it would be a disservice to you to like prevent that or obstruct that in any way, And like that's like one of the most respectable and like admirable things like anyone's ever said. I think it's really no but true because it's like not many people are like because it's not like you're like I'm fucking done with this ship. You're like, I'm stepping back so that I'm not obstructing anything. Yeah, we just don't think it's because we always say, like when we have when we don't agree on something, it's like whoever cares the most wins. That's like our rule. And I think that's a really good rule. It is a good rule. Um, And for me, I'm like, well, I have thoughts, but then I would never go full time with Cheek because I wouldn't stop that other stuff that I'm doing, So then it's not really fair for me to be like I don't want to do that. But also like I'm not going to do Cheek And it's just like I mean, because we've done so much work on it and it's never been a money maker, but I always wanted to be something where I can grow into hiring a team and really building it and actually like a living from yah and like to be in business with two people that are like I don't want a dollar, I'll just step back like that's crazy to be honest, like to actually have people that are just like it's not a money thing, Like I'm happy and like I just like you make the decision, you have the ownership, you be like, that's that's unheard of, I think for a lot of people. And I think that's one of the questions people want to know, is like what happens down the track of blah blah blah blah. I'm like, well, we have that conversation then, because we respect each other, and it doesn't you know what I mean, Like if there's everything and if in future there's ever a conversation where it's like do you want to come in and do this? So blah blah blah, that's that's always going to be fine because we're always going to have this respect and communication and like it's funny that And I think that my biggest feel when we initially talked about this was that people are going to think there was a problem and that people and a big fear as well is that people weren't going to trust me because we have built this as a brand of three of us. Because every fucking day someone's like, who's exactly what? Who tells us amount of peop who are stoy interested in? How old you as with? Really, I think I said at once, I think I said like because yeah, I think I said me and the other one yeah yeah, anway were very interested, you know, like the biggest and class Like. I don't know whether people thought I was like a celebrity or something that like it was strange the obsession. People think it's like Abby Chatfield undercover. She can't like say who it is. Yeah, yeah, And it's just that it's just a little bit. But I'm sorry to be a disappointment. I think I'm very exciting a little. Um. I think that with the like I just think that like if like I make the decision and like Catherine as well, obviously just speaking speaking to take my name off it now and then like say it like makes a billion dollars in like ten years, I don't really think that's not my billion dollars. Yeah I feel this, Yeah, I see, I Um, I like as much as I don't, I don't think you're going to come out of the woodwork continues to be like but I don't literally zero...

...legal claim to No, that's not true really well, I mean, take my name off fully, yeah, but I don't think it would be Like also as a person, if if Chick had a billion dollars. Also we don't support billionaires exactly, but like if you came back and was like and I don't think you would be, but I would still be like, well, cheek wouldn't be what it is? You know, like the first we built fifty thousand followers in less than two years, and I think that, you know, this is the thing about you. You're like, well, I've decided, so that's fucking and I respect that about you. But also like if you ever were like, hey, I saw this and I think this, I would never be like fuck you, Kristen you stepped back, I would be like thank you. If you got ten billion dollars and I was like at least two no, I know. I mean it's not because then it's like you just like what I just tap out? After two years, I'm like, yeah, goodbye, I'm done, And then what five years on track? And like, actually, when you think about the amount of work that you put into it, like and then by that point you've put in extra five years before I know, but I'm what I'm saying is if in five years you're like revisiting this conversation, please come and talk to me about and then people are going to be like either other point. But again, like I think you have any publicity scandal will do that. Yeah, But I do think it is a thing where like my again, I was like before the announcement was made, I was like awake at Like, people are going to see you two leaving and either think something has happened, which is an obvious conclusion, especially with women women judging women, men judging women, you think there's a problem always, Yeah, we're worried about it, like turning to like a personal and the second being that like this as much as Cheek is about content and writing, and like I think like obviously like I do the memes mostly, you do all the podcasts, editing and like so much background stuff that I fucking never do, and you're writing and my writing. It's really different. And I think anyone who's like a an avid follower of Cheek kind of can tell the difference in who's writing and so. But also I think that we've built this, I think, especially the last six twelve months, we've built a personal branding of our us as a duo specifically, and Catherine is a mysterious third and so in my mind, I was like, people are going to lose trust because it's just me. And that was really scary because I was like, am I like not that I'm comparing us to that, but it's like, well, hay mis Andy without hay mich and Andy, Like obviously they both have personal careers, but they're not it's not the same, and it's like we're not that, but it's like, what does that actually mean for me? Like do people? And obviously also people know that you're the more private person. I'm probably usually the more the face on stories and things. But I was still like people like the bounce and people like the dynamic and that we both offer different sides of the spectrum. So what is cheek without those differing perspectives? Um And I think people learn a lot from because I think the other thing about Cheek and what we've always wanted to be is modeling healthy conversations between friends, and I think that that's what the articles trying to do in a sense to like, you read something and you think, this is a way I can frame something from my family, This is the way I can frame something from my friends and bring into the conversation. So me by myself, what does that mean? What does that look like when I'm not modeling those things? Like I could put every question box up in the world, but sometimes you are missing that conversational element that and I think that like no one sees healthy conflicts in the way that we do it. So it is like it was, it's still scary and it's funny because when we were deciding as well, like it's weird. I sort of said to you both, I was like, I'm actually a bit terrified of doing this by myself because I know how much work it's going to be, but I'm not going to fail. That's a really weird place to be too. Like I'm like, it's going to be fine, but it's still like grieving something in the way it was. And it's also um acknowledging that something will be missing and different and like that's hard too, So it's like it's a big change. I just think that like, um, there's such a small percentage of people who actually know the people...

...who like attached to people. Yeah, that's that's always what I thought. I mean, I think it's probably like five people that are really dedicated and like our close friends have asked a lot of questions, Yeah, for sure, and that's why I was like, I want to be as like I'm not going to answer individuals that's so difficult, but like if you want to know, you want to know one like I want to be as transparent as possible. And it's hard because obviously, like we work together as well, And what I'm saying is like I'm interested in pursuing cheek is a big career thing, but I do love my job and I at my job right now, so like obviously these conversations really hard because I don't know what it looks like exactly. And again I think at the other thing, that's um not stress. I know who I am. I know it's going to be fine, but it's still like a bit intimidating. Is that a lot of people are like, how are you going to manage this? And I think that people think I'll just go for three months and then quit the whole thing, And I'm like, I don't think you understand cheeks days. I mean that's kind of the whole point. Yeah, change. Yeah, Also for all of you fucking sending how to your resume to replace me. Oh yeah. There was a lot of that. At least five people that were like and honestly, I haven't seen a lot of if you're one of these people that reached out, Like a lot of people said like, if you need help, I have this experience. That's fine, But a couple of people will flat out like if you need a new Christian, you need a new to me. I get because I am kidding, but like, um, we built it, and like I've made no money, and like it was based on like us knowing each other. So it's not really that's not really the vibes. Like the vibes is that Hannah is in charge. I am in charge, and then eventually you will grow a team. But I'm never going to No, that's not the that's not the end. I want to build out a company, but I will remain the soul owner. And if I replaced me, say to my face, okay, I met you in the car. But I actually do appreciate that people want to offer support in whatever way they can. That's way it Patreon. Yeah, on the Patroon, don't try and replace Me's been for you, Catherine, Like it's probably a really weird thing that like you've started it with us, but you're like, I'm not the face of it, and I'm a mystery person, Like you're in a way you're so close to it, you're so far away as well. I don't know. I mean, I guess that's also why the decision for me to kind of step take a step back as well, because obviously the same as what you said, like I would still be involved in some way or another, but I just feel like I never had the capacity to fully invest myself into it as much as I would have wanted to. So I guess I always sorted to take that back seat, and I was always just very conscious that, yeah, if I kind of committed too much to it from the start, I would not be able to follow through with that either. So I kind of always wanted to take that sort of mystery that actually fully Like I didn't even realize what I was doing in the time. I was like, oh, yeah, you guys, I just want to keep it, you know, just a little bit, like I'll just take a little bit of a quiet to kind of roll here, and then yeah, it just went full blown into this mystery history, even though her name has been on the web. Yeah, I don't think I'm even yeah, but it's really funny anything comes up because you'll be like, yeah, my friends from X Y and Z works share cheat content in Katherine said, She's like, yeah, I'm you. I do not know when I see it. I'm just I'm like, do I say something? Do I say like, hey, I helped you? Ever said it? I've always in tempted to do. But then I'm sort of like, it's He's really weird. It is a bit strange, especially because I feel it for me as well. I'm not so much behind like the content, Like all my role really has been is just like the visuals and stuff. And even then, like Hannah kind of does it all. Anyway, Sometimes I post something and I'm like I'm sending Catherine a message. I'm like, this is so ugly that I've done to your beautiful time. I'm so sorry. I just want to let you know that I know it's ugly. Every time I do something fucked up in Canva, I'm like, Catherine would die saw what I'm doing right...

...now. I'm just trying to like hat camp and make a photoshop which I can't use. But I also loved that Katherine's like Um, you know, I take a back seat. You know, I'm not as content focus as you're. Like everything visual that you see, Katherine creative like it is. You know, you are the most professional person. Like I see other people's tiles and I'm like, funk, we're good like literally everything. Yeah, they are so cool. Um and also some people have stolen our time. Yeah, I feel like I've seen like a bit of Yeah, because also I feel like I didn't really look at much like obviously you do a little bit of research to checking up flat up like duplicating someone else and stuff like yeah when you don't know you're doing it. But yeah, I feel like when we did it, it wasn't really like anything. I think the closest thing we were like, oh does it look like that Pokey? Yeah someone I and you said, She's like, oh my god, it looks just like Chickie poke Well, And I think we looked at it and we decided that, Yeah, I don't think different industries. It's so cool. I don't worry about it. But yeah, anyway, yeah, I feel like since then, I feel like we've seen a bit more. Um. Yeah, similar kind of visuals pop up on Instagram. We see you, and it's just been a few times, like throughout the evolution of the look of the tiles, like there have been some that like look the same yea to some extent, Like I know you can say like there's no original ideas anymore, but sometimes it was like, well, your child looked like ours three months ago, and now your child looks like ours, Like yeah, so what's time of that anyway? But it's really it's really big different look. But it's so like running a business means you get excited about the weirdest ship. Like I remember when you set me the tiles and they weren't square anymore, they were like the rectile. It was like, I was like, to do that. I think this is like the common third with everything I do I have. I'm like, yes, I'm going to do that. And then probably like five months later, I get around to doing it, and I think then to being portrait, which is I was like I need to do this, I need to do this, and then finally finally it looks so very slow, and it's actually because yeah, sometimes on my post something, I'm like, oh fuck, she's probably sitting there going you've scribbled scribled on my drawing. Bitch, No, I feel like you have a good art and you've got you both have like but you never ruined the other sense absurd. Like Christian used to write an article on the cheek tiles and I'd be like, I don't like the way this, so I have an issue. This is okay, this is how this is how serious it gets right, and christ is like, you've got to grow up, right. So when we have like text on a normal type is a normal article. I have very specific ideas about how the text should be boxed, so like I like to move the text around and change the font and the shape of the actual text box on the tile it looks more like a square or rectangle. So I don't like words over hanging on one edge, and I like to talk as like as neat as possible. So it went before Christen never posts tile. She'd always just leave them in can but and then messed me like and do okay. There was one I had to play the LGBT card because you wanted you were I wanted like a um like a click baity type of headline in big text, and then like a bit of a subheading. And Hannah was like, they need to be the same size, and I was like, no, they can't be. It was about Peter done with the Dagwood dog or the gage jokes and then and I'm really angry about that. I looking back, that was that was pretty unhinded. I was like, no, it has they have to be like all the same and I was like, no, like that, one has to be bigger and there has to be a gap. And I think we ended up compromising. There was no gap, but the top was bigger, but it did get to a wo way. Christian was like, I was like, as a buy woman, you need and I was like, fuck, she's right. I'm so. It's so embarrassing because I think it's the front was like in big...

...texts, it was like, stop making gay jokes about Peter Dutton. I just wanted to Yeah, it needed to be big, but I did get the rid of the gap as you requested. Compromised. Here we always talk about the big picture. We're always focused on the big stuff, not the gap between two font sizes of the chat that doesn't get a second you know, irrelevant, not important, But it's funny that that probably makes us more furious than anything else. Like you can we just take a minute. Can we just take a minute away from each other right now? Because it always came back to me being like, this is not going to be the difference, and you're like, it is is the difference. And because I don't I was never on the Instagram that much, then I'm like, well, maybe it is the difference. I wouldn't. I know it's not. It's not actually the difference. But I think that when I think for a lot of people and it's athetic tile, like as much as some people share this ugly ship right from other sources, I'm always like, Jesus, what is that? But when a tile looks nice, it's much I think there's a I think there's ten that would not even would not consciously realized that. It's because of the aesthetic of something which sucks. Yes, so sometimes they just look really bad when you like the automatic background on the time when you share it Instagram stories. Yeah, like when it's white and on what I hate that for some reason. So I think some people it's just like, yeah, we want to make it like as easy as possible for it to look good. Yeah, exactly, and don't in on it. Someone does that who are doing like a very famous, very famous person. You always zoom in, so they share it to story and then they zoom in or on. So many same people do this and I'm like, I want to click three for fun and this is absolutely pathetic. But when someone with like two hundred and fifty thousand followers, who you think, oh my god, we're about to grow, like this is going to be great, they will screenshot. They will screenshot and then they will crop, they will crop it and then they will post it to their story and I'm like, you did, no one can access our full article now you didn't tag us, so your plagiarism. They don't realize it because they're like, I'm still sharing that has the handle on it, but I'm like, no one can click through that and like actually see the rest of the content, and like, fuck me, this is the fust. And this is obviously pathetic what I'm saying. But with a growing platform where you're actually trying to talk about really important issues, for someone who has a massive platform to share you is a huge deal. And then for them to fuck it up, yeah, well, I just think it's it is about like plagiarism, like that you need to cite your fucking sources, especially if it's want to pay, like yeah, and the way social media operates that you have to actually make it connect, like you have to link. You can't just assume someone's going to ye zoom in and like read the letters when there's no dover find that And that's exactly right. And sometimes people will repost your entire post but not tag you. Yeah it's so now that's yours. Yeah, exactly did you write it and put on the exact same tiles and put all I'm asking. All I'm asking is it when you post it, caption repost at cheek and then whatever caps you want, but the repost goes first yea the queen, Sorry, I love you all. It's not even that are listening to other people, but anyways, it's mostly the bigger accounts, Yeah, because they don't want to like I don't know, Yeah, these are such first world problems. But but also I feel because like a lot of people do that, and like obviously we're three white women, but a lot of people repost ship like that from like marginalized people and then they don't like just sucking tag. It's not that hard. You didn't if you didn't think about if you didn't think of the content, maybe yourself then just tag like hello, yeah, yeah, it's actually crazy how much it happens like it really Yeah, it's not just stars said all the time. It's just annoying. Yeah, rude. Absolutely, someone's gone to a lot of effort to create that. Exactly report them.

I've like basically my hobbies reporting people on social Oh my god, New South Wales police, I see your TikTok and my report all of them. Okay, you're reported, countful activities reported. That's funny. More often it's so fun just real out of it. I definitely reported a lot, like I went on a yeah, the whole Antibucks thing, just reported. Yes, everything reported. Yeah, it's like a small I think there was one night where I was just up so late reporting what did you do last night? Just reported? I just reported because it's good. Also, sometimes I report because I just never want to see them in my like I think people. I think I've said this on the podcast before, but I have all the Cudassians blocked on Instagram. Yeah, not because I don't want them to see me, because they don't algorithm, but I don't want the algorithm to think that I'm interested. Yeah, blocked and reported I must protest this family for the last time on the podcast this final podcast these people. When you shared the story, dude, this we don't hate each other. Chickie poke bowls, Chile. Where were not that? So many people messaging were like, are you and Christen breaking up because of the dot? I really hope they're all the jokes. That's really imposing. Yeah, I just find it so funny how many people read it is like medic codes, like we're like doctors. People thought we were like doctors that really were passionate about We just don't niche Like interesting, what about that? Like in what context? Like I'm sorry, but if you followed for that reason within a week, you didn't see us, like, you know, just going place it Like surely you would be like, fuck me, you just click into the profile, says cheek media on it. Yeah, holy fuck? Anyway, should we wrap up here? Laughing? Um? Final words? Final words? I don't know that was really emotional, Christen. You know me, I don't like I already said my emotional words and my statement. Yeah those words, well those are your emotional word only fun I thought you were being serious. I mean to be honest, it is probably as far as I'll go. But I'll say to the end, if you'll write me a long letter, I don't worry. I wouldn't hold my breath because I would die. I would die. I definite wouldn't have been writing embarrassing. Um. Yeah, well it's been a treat. It's been a treat. Podcast is over. I mean, you know I'm bad, but I'm not the I think people need to understand. Also, I actually Christen was doing all the editing and all the podcast works, so like I would have to learn that from scratch, which I will try to do to produce things in future. Obviously I want to build something big and empire, but not in a rip of Birdock way. But yeah, this is the And I would like to say to people. Christen, not in writing, but did say to me that maybe down the track we would do like a one night only special life special. Yeah. So I think that's cards. That's great. Thanks a venue that they want to give to us, because it's really expensive to get advantage, so fucking expensive, but it'll be those billions of dollars. It is really expensive to get a venue, and we wouldn't want to like charge people heaps of money to attend, so if you have a venue. But yeah, so like, look, we don't we don't hate each other, which is really beautiful thing, I think. And we might do something in future, so that's nice, exciting, exciting. Yeah, you just love this. I think I'm just blowing up. I'm ready to come back next. That's actually I'm very nervous still, it's a bit intense. We also started without all...

...the equipment. Yeah, it's a lot. I think I bumped this so many times. You can't you can't, you can't hear it. Anyway, we started doing the podcast like sitting like one centimeter away from each other in my old house in the office, in the dark and sweaty when we would be trippers. Yeah, my first episode of my Cius episode never Forget. I still think that's good ship. It is it is it a see that comment where someone was like, I loved your podcast, even if the first one was Miley, even even if what do you mean, even if that was a great starting point, that was so like that, I honestly am shocked. Sometimes I go back and listen to it, and the most last time I listened it was a few months ago and I was like listening, and I was like, oh my god, I'm going to be so like, this is so cringe, but it was so good. That is great content from the guests. You're welcome for ninety seven episodes of excellence. But yeah, I was really. I mean she has released new music since then. Yeah, so just take it with a grand of st okay. But it's great stuff. Go back and listen. If you can't get enough of them. Yeah, true, you can actually really listen to every single one up as many times. Many times we can leave them up them away. Yeah, yeah, they're great. You can just repost them and pretend they're fresh. True, I didn't know if you wanted to be honest. Still real real, remember this real, real, real. I don't know you can post real. That's nice alright, as long as people know they're old. Yeah, historical, historical, real from the archives. Well, thank you, farewell, fair wee Weekly Cheek Bye Cheek bye, I mean not your bye Weekly Cheek whereby cheek Christ and I leave and then you buy to the Weekly Cheek. Yeah, it's been fun. It's been fun. Thanks for listening. Bye bye. If you didn't find us completely insufferable, come back next Wednesday for a new episode. You can also find this on Instagram, at cheek Media Co. Or online cheek media dot com. Dott Yes that's the one. That's the one.

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