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Episode · 1 year ago

34. Why is everyone getting Botox?

ABOUT THIS EPISODE

In this episode, we're talking about Botox! We're absolutely not qualified and neither of us have had any experience with Botox or similar procedures, but that's never stopped us before. Why are so many young people now getting 'preventative Botox'? What is preventative Botox? How many things do we do to our faces because we're socialised, and can you ever have a procedure done 'just for yourself'?

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Hello, I'm Christ and Parison Otto and I'm hard of Ferguson and where, Co founders of Cheek mediac this is the weekly Cheek podcast. When did we start getting told that we need to get Botox in out early twenty? Yeah, and it's not because I'm like I just want some old man to look at me in the street like. That's just not it, because I actually am like be gone right. I wish I look I wish I looked so ugly to look at me like I would only see myself in like the bathroom at work on Ip twice a day. Okay, twenty isn't healthy. Now, are you supposed to pee every two hour? Welcome back to the weekly Cheek podcast. I'm Kristen, I'm Hannah. We already said that this ound and they were talking about Botox. Yes, specifically why everyone seems we getting botox at the moment. Yeah, I mean, I was actually reading an article today about the rise in Botox and it was really strange because it was trying to frame it as the reason why there was an increase in people getting Botox and cosmetic procedures of any card was because since covid there's been a rise because people want to look good on zoom and I was like, that's a really strange way to put it, considering I think it's more aggressive to see someone facetoface, like I think you can see more of something. I don't think zoom has high enough quality for that to be like. That was just confusing to me. Do you know why I think it actually is? I think it's because people look at themselves on zoom the true so your imperfections are highlighted purely because we're looking at us. Well, during covid were looking at ourself much more than we usually would. I also think this is not to go off track straight away, but there's a difference when I work from home, especially during when I love Covid, when it was like more long term, like weeks at a time, I would not dress for work in the same sense, like it would just be like tracksuit pants and a top, Yep, and you notice your face more when you're not putting on makeup or doing our hair or doing these things to go out into the world. And so it's like when I'm at work, I'm not really thinking about how I look because I know I've dressed in a corporate sense and like I'm probably done...

...my hair a bit more. But at home, like I we I work in a second bedroom, so it's a spare bedroom, so there's a mirror next to my desk all day. Like I wonder how much that plays into. Those little things play into people. Right, so you could like just get a glance of yourself any time, and I'm not really trying. Yeah, so then other things become more noticeable. Yeah, whereas I don't, like I would only see myself in like the bathroom at work on Ip twice a day. Okay, Delanday, isn't healthy. No, you supposed to pee every two hours. Know it work. Oh, like I said, do it, go for it for like nine hours. That's another topic. We won't talk about your nation right now, but sorry, yeah, because, well, the end this is kind of a topic as well. But in the same realm, I think not that a b no shop is the same as wotox anyway. But a lot of people were saying that when snapchat and instagram like got huge and started, you know, the store like stories started altering. Yeah, people started getting those jobs because in a camera, because it's close to your face, and because of how the Lens Works, which is not the same as it on a phone, is not the same as a regular camera. It actually is like I don't know what the terminology is, but anyway, but it makes your face look wider than what it actually is. Yes, because if the dimensions and the way the angle actually yeah, because it's because of the meals like a something mill lens. I don't know what the number is. Well, I've sound really it. Well, research. No, I know what you mean. I've actually watched many a video on this before and the way we perceive ourselves because of the angle of especially the iphone camera. We actually don't like the our how we look in a mirror is not how we look in a phone or even like a particularly the Front Front Camera, how we are looking on the screen when we're looking at ourselves, because I think even like you know, a lot of women used to carry compacts around with them so they could like check, you know, the lipstick or their teeth or whatever in the day. Like no one does that anymore. We just looking at our phone. Yeah, we don't. If we actually don't look like that, then it's giving us a distorted image of what we really look like. It's interesting too, because think about like the rise of ticktock as well, like a lot of the challenges of that, you know, that symmetry where it's it tries to. Oh...

...yeah, it flips it back if it's your face, and so you can see how symmetrical your face is based on the flip and that's a really weird popular video challenge to do. Yeah, horrifying. I did it. It's actually really weird that that's a challenge. I think it's because the standard of beauty that we actually see is like how symmetrical your face is. Yeah, which is really weird because I don't necessarily agree with that. I think there's some people are really interesting face and I think they much prettier than others. Yeah, well, I think it's because scientifically, we are drawn to things that are symmetrical and so like. Yeah, people who are, you know, technically like the most beautiful are people who are symatrical. But then when you go to models, they like people will choose models who have an interesting look rather than like the most beautiful. So anyway, but anyway, but I think this is all. It all kind of like we and it's also so much easier and it's getting easier and easy at this is not a new original thought, to compare what we look like to other people. Yeah, it's like easier than it ever has been before. I think that, and I mean I'm not the only one who thinks this, but a lot of people are saying that any type of plastic surgery, fillers, any kind of procedures that are outside the realm of like general skincare have been on the rise because we are comparing ourselves to, you know, the elite online so much more and a lot of a popular procedures at the moment. There's a lot of non procedural or non surgical face lifts that have become popularized the moment. I'm not sure how actually effective they are. I've seen a lot of like photos online when I was thinking about this subject for this podcast, and a lot of them I don't think. I mean there are a lot of them aimed at older women and they have before and after photos that it look very, very based on their very based on lighting and angle, and I can see that it's it's been shot differently. Okay, yeah, at he bothers me about how much people are charging for those things. I think more than anything, like I'm one of those people that's very much like, do whatever...

...you want. M Like, I just think if you want to get a cosmetic procedure of any kind like that is totally up to you. You have agency, you have autonomy to do that. I'm not that interested, at least now I'm not interested. I'm more interested in the way the in which we decide what procedures to get, because there's so much available, but also around the ethical standards and challenges that providers face and practitioners that are providing the service. Like yeah, that's what's kind of gets me sometimes. MMM. Yes, well, particularly, and this is like the main thing, we want to talk about how young people are who are getting Botox, and a lot of the I mean I've had. I was talking about is the close friend of mine a little while ago, and they'll know who they are to listen to this, but they were saying that they want to try really hard for the next two year at the skin covert and like really go at it, like have like a one fifteen hundred step routine and just try their best for the next two to three years and then see how they feel or get preventive botox. Okay, prevented of Botox is such a buzz phrase at the moment. Yeah, I mean, look, I don't have qualifications, but I honestly think that that's a scam. Go on, tell me why, because so people say that you get well, I should sleep like sellers of Botox, because we always have to remember, like if people are telling you something, that something is really good and they're selling it, they have an agenda. But people are saying that you get vote Botox to prevent your skin from aging or getting fine lines and wrinkles, etc. Etc. But also you have to get botox every like three to six months. So how is it possibly preventing your wrinkles when you're getting it, say, at twenty three? I watch someone, Youwtube, who is twenty three and is getting signed to get regular botox. Because the question that I have is when, if you start getting preventative of Botox at twenty three or twenty two, do you then have to keep on getting it for the rest of the time you want to your face to look like it does at the end of your Botox session?...

I don't really understand how it works. Like if it's preventative and you have to get it every three months. Is that? Because for what reason, like what happens to it dissolves into your body? What? Yeah, that that doesn't make sense. Wi would you start getting preventative now? That's what I wonder because, like there are people like have you seen those botched botox videos on Tick Tock? Because me really funny, like there are some there meant to be comedy, like the Woman Who's I is like like probably half a centime to load our other eyes. As I see, she does like comedy videos about it. So I'm laughing because it's comedy. M Like that. It wouldn't really funny. He has like botched as a show. Doesn't like there's actual shows based around bad things that have happened in these procedures exactly. But even if you get botch Botox, I had a friend who's bottos in her forehead. It was I don't know if it's like too much botox or did it wrong. Literally couldn't raise her eyebrows for like quite a few months, but now she has full, like Irun Mobility once again. So it goes away, it fades fades out, I guess, just like lip Filler, like you need to keep getting topped up on lip Philly, you to keep keep getting topped up on Botox. So how can that possibly be prevented? It interesting to me. I mean I think they just want to upkeep a look. It's like continuously going back and getting fake nails or, yea, eyelashes put in. Like I understand the premise and I understand that. I think that if you have a particular insecurity, like for me, I've always thought about getting a nice job, like I've always thought, like if I just had a spare seven to tenzero dollars lying around it life to go and get a really not major but like I would consider having that procedure performed. Yeah, but I've never like I've never looked into it, like I've never gone and had a quotes or like looked in solid it's just a vague idea. But then again, like what I've actually found as I've grown into my nose, as opposed to grow into this idea more like with age, has come this like it's fine. Yeah, like I think a like seventeen, I was like it's gonna Happen, my first full time job,...

...it's going to happen, and now I'm like, Oh, who cares? Yeah, well, I guess you start to think, like when you start earning the money, that you could actually put it away your then like I could do so much other stuff. Yeah, but I also think that you just get more secure. Usually that's what's yeah, yeah, and I don't know if it's actually more secure or you just like get it's like more years you've spent looking at your face or your body or whatever. Yeah, I've come to like it, and I've also come to be like a why I was so problematic about this in the first place. But then again, like that's not to say that other people shouldn't get it, and I mean some people get cosmic procedures for like actual medical reasons as well. So there's just different approach to it. And again, I don't really like if someone says, like, Oh, I got Botox, I'm actually just more like how does it feel? How much did it hurt? What actually happened? Which one did you choose? Like, yeah, is how did you say? which person you go to? Like how much, like I'm really interested in the charging, what the procedure was, like how much pain they're in. Like I find that I just want to ask the questions because I'm not necessarily interested in getting at myself, but I want to know about it's like acupuncture. I mean it's not like that, but it's like a range of different sort of treatment so you can receive. I'm just more interested in like, Oh, what happens in that situation? Yeah, yeah, because for me I wouldn't get it at the moment and I don't really foresee a time when I would decide to get botox. But I don't really think when I think of like, you know, is it problematic that people so young are getting botox? I'm actually thinking about it as like from the individual like I do think that everyone should do whatever they like, but I wander more from the like capitalistation or yeah, point of view. It's like when did we start getting told that we need to get botox in out early s? Yeah, and I think it. Yeah, for the perspective, it's the ethical side of like are you being transparent in the our advice you're giving this person and like do they actually need it? And now much you feeling that idea? Yeah, because obviously people who were in their twenties who are getting preventive botox or just botox in general, probably have a specific idea about what they want to fix. Like a lot of people come in and say I have...

...this one treatment area that I'm interested in, like I have a specific foreheadline, I have a specific like Crowsfeet, or in developing more like as a specific area that they want fixed. And I think a lot of the time it's like, well, let's just make sure that we're not going outside that unnecessarily either. We're not going either. Practis is not like goal. We can get that one too, while you're at it. Yeah, or something. Maybe they might be. Yeah, that's my concern. And Sex in the city. Yeah, really, yeah, with LIPO. What happened? So Samantha, the very blogs, you one, the blomer, will never be tied down. Yes, yes, yes, yes, she's not. It's not coming back to the new season. Is that right? Yes, and she's like the she's like the ahead of her time, like free spirit, like, yes, that sex every tire. Yeah, yeah, never. I've seen half of sex and city, the movie to okay, don't watch the movie, Watch the anyway. So basically she goes to get Liepo because and she has this kind of like I think the way that it was supposed to do in the show was this like feminist empowerment movement, where she's like I can afford to get it, so why not? Kind of thing. And she goes and she's like I'm looking for just like a bit of Lipo, and then the doctor, this plastic surgeon, like puts all these marks all over her body and was like yeah, you know, we can do that, but then like in five years we can get you a breast augmentation and then ten years you might need some like fat sucked out of your hips, and then it's just like kind of snowballs, and I I don't have any idea because I've never been in that situation with a professional, but I wonder if people do. I know there's lots of drugs about it online, like people trying to, you know, try and upsell you. Like if you're getting your eyebrows started, it's like, Oh, why don't we thread your mouth stash? It's like, Oh, cool, I don't know I had a moustache, but thanks. That's what I think all the time too. I mean, but that can happen in any treatment room. Like this is so minor, but I remember when I went to my GP and I was like Hey, like to go on the contraceptive pill. In deciding that I would go on the CONTRACEPTI pill, she was like will make sure it's one that fixes all that up and like pointed to my pimples on my a chin, oh my God, and I was like, well, that's not at all that I was actually having. Like it was iron deficiency that...

I was initially going to get on the pillform. That was the actual reason, and instant she was like we better fix all that up, which is really because it's like that's like a very I mean every reason to go on the pillars is valid, obviously, but like the fact you going for an iron was like a very medical reason. It's just like also, like your pimples are just to let you know that's bad. Yeah, like, and that's the thing. It's like it's really interesting with health professionals, the way that they conduct themselves in terms of the actual social communication aspect of these sort of procedures. Yeah, I actually had a facial once, like I went in with my mom. We both got them, and I think I went in first. I lay down and they put that like really bright light on you and she was like so you have cistic acne, and I was like excuse me, like my skin wasn't that bad, like, looking back, there probably were a few cystic breakouts in the like just by way of the fact that they wore very deep, but like this you know, professional and I was probably nineteen at the time, just like lay down there and she was like well, your skin is terrible, and she's like you have blackheads in your ears, and I was like, excuse me, and then my mom went in after her and she basically spent the whole time like having got my mom for not like doing something about my skin and was like, how can you let her walk around like that? That's assume. That's I remember one of my best friends coming out of the hairdresser one day and crime because the hair dresser, just the entire forty minutes she was in the chair, was just like Oh, it's so dry, it's just, yeah, you barely have it like and been like you're like you barely have any hair left, it's just so dry. Well, you should have been here months ago. It's like no one is ever going back to your cal on. I don't don't understand why you think. Yeah, people, you do that to my hair too, because it used to be like when it's long, it's really curly, and they used to do that as well, and I think now that's just because, like, if you don't go to people who know curly head and they don't understand what to do with it, and that always like it's so thick. It's sorry, Bekun need to go mix up for more diets. Very thick. I M like, just don't come. I talking about doesn't do it and I leave. Yeah, before this begins.

Exactly. I just don't like. You know, if you are a professional, you know whether you're hairdresser or a beautish or a doctor. I just don't like. Don't Ject your opinion, but what I'm doing. That's part of it too, because at the end of the day, what I think is really hard about these sort of professions is they're still just people. Yeah, I mean they've clearly got all the qualifications of the world to be doing these sorts of procedures, but sometimes the communication aspect about what they think you need is difficult to separate from the procedure you wanted to have. Yeah, exactly, and because this is again it's hard because I'm not a medical professional, I don't know how these things work, but it's difficult when someone comes in for a very specific goal and that might be tainted or in any way redirected by their view of what the outcome should be, especially when it's a very physical appearance based treatment. Yes, exactly, and that's that's another problem and I know, like I can't speak on it because I have never liked had this experience, but I know there a lot of plus size people have those problems at the doctor where they go in because they're like, you know, I have lots of Hay fever and they're like well, you could really lose some weight and it's like that's not really relevant. So I can't really speak on those more serious issues, but it is like it's just so unnecessary and like it's like a violation because you're going in there kind of acknowledging that they are the professional and they know what they're doing and you're the one who's seeking out their professional opinion and when you're kind of I just feel like it's a betrayal when you're treated like that in some way. I don't be like that anyway. Things are related to Botox. It is. No, it is, because I think it's I think that preventative botox is this auty more exactly, and I think it's kind of like getting a tattoo, a piercing. You get it and then you want more, MMM, because you've had it once and you know, and it might be partly Pussy AB effect, but I think you talk yourself into like Oh, it does look better. Yeah. So now when it fades or has to happen again, and like it's costs, but it's also like quite a painful treatment to going back for,...

...like the idea of getting a lip filler. That seems so painful to me. Yeah, I feel like your lip is are very, so brave. Yeah, and it's like when it's on your face, you can like see the needle coming. I'd be scared. The other thing is that I was just thinking about is when I think that, or I guess this is maybe a question, botox seems to be more in quite acceptable than any kind of filler. Lip filler kind of more you know, the I guess, I don't know, plastic surgery light I suppose procedures, because I guess Botox, you know, good Botox, is bringing you back to how you looked before, like before you got the wrinkles or whatever. Whereas it's a change exactly, like getting your lips injected. It's like you, it's this is not how you looked before. It's like a new look, like you now look different. Yeah, so I wonder if that's if there's like a level of like what's acceptable or not in society and whether, you know, perhaps botox is a lot more accepted than something that actually alter the way you look. Yeah, to what you like, to something that you didn't look like before. There's a lot of stigma with botox that you just can't move your face. Isn't that the thing? Yeah, I think so. Like when you've had any like a botox, comes with this stereotype of like, well, they have no reaction or emotion in their face anymore. Yeah, that's like the Trope, I feel, even a good botox, you should still be at them. Yeah, yeah, but I feel like, yeah, injections of like a lip filler or like alteration of a nose or a Chin like something like that. HMM. Yeah, it's about like fundamentally changing the way you look as opposed to like preventing aging. Yeah, Yeah, interesting. My Mum, I don't think has. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure she would have mentioned it. Has Not had botox and I don't think she will, which is mom staying. Yeah, I think that's part of the reason that I'm not that interested. I just think it's so interesting that, like the people I know have botox are all like my age or younger. Say, that's really bizarres's talking about it. To me, though, like some people might be getting an improt like I used to live next door to a cosmetic clinic, MMM, and all the women that I saw going...

...in there were probably between forty and sixty and they would like very upper class, because I'd park, okay, next to my house, and so I'd see that like different people going in Radia, and I was overwhelmingly just like mom's who'd like we had people who were like, Oh, I'm trying to do this because I've just had my last pregnancy and I'd like this done m or people who were just like coming into the s and sixties and retiring and just like I want this or this done, like literally, because I went into the reception a few times to ask people to move their carss. Oh, yeah, so like literally, I would be like in reception, like listening and they'd be like I'm looking to have this. I literally heard them talking about like a multiple okay, Asian. So I did hear a few things that I was like, Huh, what's up? Before an artem pictures. It surprising. Yeah, inside Scoop, I thought you're gonna say something else where they driving extensive cars. Okay, interesting, very interesting, because the people that I know, and this I'm talking about mostly people online, like influences, who are, for the most part, younger than me. It doesn't even seem to be like a big thing, which is interesting to me, like the way that they talk about and is also might be just like with the kind of generational shift where we're all like younger people are a lot more open about these things. It's kind of just like this is my appointment today. It's like I'm going to the dentist and I'm going for BOT shocks. Yeah, and it's because I think like even when I was at age, like I feel like getting attached who or like getting a piercing, had a lot more like lead up to it then. Even Botox does now, which is interesting. I don't what it does. It's as permanent, that's true. It's also not that sual, like, yeah, it is, but it's not something that everyone's gonna like, Oh my God, pull up your arm, like your shirt or something. Well, of your arm. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, interesting, do you thinks? Do you still think people are like keeping it secret? Yes, young people. I don't think young people are. No, me...

...neither. Then again, I don't know, because they keeping it secret. Yeah, actually for but I think that with young people it's like, oh, this is like. I mean the thing is also it's difficult because people I know that have had it a very open about that sort of stuff and I'm like, I'm just really interested in and then then when I have a chat about it, because I yet had it done or whatever, and comparing pricing words, you go like there's very common knowledge of like what's the best and what's the worst clinics and what's the right price and things like that. I don't really have much knowledge of it. That's why I want to know. Yeah, because I probably it's interesting. I've never thought about having it until recently because of the amount of people that have been telling me that they've been getting it. Yeah, it is just pattern behavior thing. Yes, exactly. And the other thing is I think it is a lot more subtle, and I don't that. Don't know if that's just the approach that younger people are taking, because, you know, you know, when you're in your early s, like how much? How many wrinkles do you have? Yeah, even though I so really found out that's like when you start getting wrinkles. Excuse me, like nowadays, see how my face looks. You have a really good skin. Thank you, but this is not what I look like for the first hour of being awake, like the puff on my face takes at least an hour to go down now. YEA, and I swear that was since I turned twenty seven, like you didn't used to be like that. My God, I know how crazy will happen to me anyway. Yeah, so I don't like you know, I think our if you go back a few years ago, our idea of botox was like older women with skin that was like so obviously stretched back, whereas now it's so much more subtle, and I don't know if that's because the techniques have changed. I don't know if that's because younger people don't need as much botox or if it's like a different kind of tech, a different like approach they take. I don't know, I'm wondering so that, like the people that I'm seeing getting botox, you couldn't really tell, you know, the day before the day after, that something's different about their face. But to them they think, yeah, because that's my thoughts sometimes, as I think for a lot of younger people's about from the bothers them. Yeah, something that other people...

...would notice yet more. I guess that's a wide ethical question. Yeah, like how many, like, even if they perceive to be doing it because it's something that bothered bothers them, do they think that it bothers other people? Yeah, because I think that in like today's society, it is really difficult to figure out the difference, like how much do we actually do for ourselves and other people who all I hear a lot of people saying that they get like expersiated on for themselves and like, if you were the only person who saw yourself, would you still get it? That's really interesting. And is that a fair question to figure out if they're really doing for themselves? That is a fair question. I mean, at the end of the day, I still believe that everyone should be able to pay. Well, if you want to use your money to do that. That's fine. Yeah, for sure, it's fully legal and if you have, if you it's a big enough problem for you. Go ahead. Yeah, I does not bother me, like that's what you feel like doing. I think that is a really good question to ask you. If you were the only one who saw yourself, would you still care? Exactly. But then, I guess, how do you answer that question? Because if you thought, I ayone who saw yourself, you wouldn't be socialized, like impacted by society, like if you knew that you were going to I actually do a bit of this in like a sociology class at Union. It was really interesting. We all wrote down the things that we do to our bodies for other people and what we do for ourselves, and I was like, is there anything that we do for ourselves truly, like if I knew that I was going to be by myself for one whole month, like what would I do to my faith, to like my face, my body, blah, blah. I would still exercise, because I do believe that I do exercise for myself, because it's more for the feeling mental health yet and like it's just like a habit. But in terms of like like I wouldn't pluck my eyebrows, I wouldn't cut or die my hair, I wouldn't shave any part of my body. I think it's really hard to separate because when I think about the reasons that I...

...do things, I don't think I'm doing them for others, but it's because I'm so socialized that I correlate the way I look with the way I feel and my mental health. Yeah, and it's not because I'm like I just want some old man to look at me in the street like. That's just not it, because I actually am like be gone right. I wish I looked. I looked so ugly to look at me. I wish I was as similar rat already from Brad Toui Remy's actually eaty Um and ugly. But I think the thing is, is it like if I personally know I'm having a bad hair day, it's not about someone else being like she's having a bad h day, because they won't notice. And I know they don't know. I know that. I know because I know what my hair looks like when it's good. Okay, and it annoys me because I have to move through the world going it doesn't bother me that much, but it kind of reminds me that scene in fleabag where they go to the hair dressed and she's like, Harry is everything. It's a sign up fertility, it's a sign of this, like it's because also these things are biological, like, for example, like have you seen that scientific video where they talk about like so the week like when you finish your period and then the week after is when your facebooks actually it's more symmetrical, real and there's like there's literally all these stats on, like you do look different physically during different weeks of the month, right, so that I also notice this correlation. Like sometimes I'm like, I know I'm feeling this way because it's x week. HMM, and this is hounds first seething, and why am I hungry? And I really try to correlate these things, but I still innately know it's a good or bad day and it's not really about the fact that someone else is attracted to me. It's about the fact that I feel it. MM. But it's probably because I'm so socialized I think these things. Yeah, well, I guess, because if you took that if and it would be different, like if we were just like still, you know, cave people versus like I'm going to have a month for my on my own. Yeah, because it's hard to because, like with it, if you had a month on your own starting tomorrow, you would still have all of the socializing that you already have. Things like do I have my phone? True, yeah, because...

...that's a massive part of it. Yeah, for me, not so much. What's because what we're looking at? For me, like, I don't follow the K words m but if I was, I think it would have a massive impact on like, Oh God, look in the mirror, but it's all about money. Like that look is about how much money you have. That sort reflection of how they like. I know that, yes, but it's like when that is just constantly on your mind, like I don't use those filters, like the only time I use those instagram fields is to send one to you when I think it's funny. Yeah, I'm like, look at me, ridiculous, like a Tattoo one. Yes, that was a great one, though. And why do they all have? The top of your lift is just like slightly turned up. It's like you've had fellers. Yes, all of them have that now. Yeah, I know all of them have staying drawn on freckles and Ms. so interesting, but it's kind of like those are the things that make you like, I try to oppose them on purpose, but I still have a feed full of people who are like it's announcement of culture, it's like perfection culture, all these things. Yeah, and so it's like, well, I'm so sociried that I can't forget those things that if I'm literally look at my phone, I'm subconsciously not acknowledging the fact that these people are all putting their best foot forward. Yeah, yeah, so it affects the way you perceive everything. So when I'm at working from home in my tractup pans that have a mustard stain on the butt cheek or something had you get must than the but that's so impressive. And then I get up, look in the mirror and then I'm like all people from school got engaged today. Yuck. That's it. The perception is just totally skewed. MMM Yeah, interesting. Well, I find like for me, this is one's very specific thing. Sometimes this has happened to me and I don't think about it at all and then when happens I'm like Whoa like I'm in a bad mood that day. I'm just like feeling a bit off, and it'll be a day that I like cut and dye my hair, and so by that time like it'll be almost brown, like mostly grown out, lots of regrowth, and then I will cut and die until...

...it's like fully fresh, which is like fresher than what it is right now, and then my mood or to switch, HMM, and I never put the two together until I've done it and I'm like interesting, but what, like do you think you just don't like the look and you don't realize it's the look. I don't know if it's actually about the look because I don't really I don't actually look at myself very often, like you know, during my usual day to day I'm not really looking at myself very often, but I don't know, like it has happened quite a few times that I'm like wow, because I just it's almost like I feel like myself again. That's really interesting and I don't know if it's specifically because I do feel like my hair is like a big part of who I am, which is like so lame, because if we just said before about for you bag, because I don't know, because it is. I think it's a really relevant thing, like and all, but also I think that my hair specific actually like says a lot about my personality. Yes, because it's like, but it's a very purposeful because how many people don't just eat died? You have a day before, like it worked. They notice. They they always noticed. When I'm like, so I decided a new job. They maybe two and a half months ago and they're noticed the first time. They're like, Oh, you like it down your hair, but it's every two weeks now. So people are not mentioning every two weeks. Yes, but it's always like when I meet people and then the first time I redo it, they always say something, but they won't say anything after that. So people do notice when it's fresh. I mean I notice when it's fresh because it is especially that first couple of days. It has a certain look because it's because it's shaved. You're a one with a shaved head that dies it frequently. It's very, very bold people exactly and look, it does act, it does make a statement like even that. Sometimes that annoys me. It's like you know a woman who shaves, especially because I shave my own head. It's just like you're making a stayment. So funny because now that I know you, I'm like cool, fresh, not fresh. Few days how I can't really tell, but like I can tell absolutely fresh and then a couple days after, yeah, but real. So sometimes when it's actually fresh, sometimes like a slight burn mark on my forehead. It's funny because I think it.

When I first met it was like Whoa bold, and now I'm like that is kristen, like I did. That is just when I see some have a shaved own on Mike. Is that Kristin? That's the only thing I think now. Is that Kristen? That's literally it, like there's nothing. I'm like, very nice, you have a head for it, great work. Is that Kristen? It's all that runs through my mind. Where's before I probably would be like Oh, bold, shaved head, yeah, but like now I'm so normal. But it's funny because so many men have buzz cuts. They look like a shit. Why don't I think that's bold? Oh, but it's because for men they're allowed, like, you know, societally allowed, are allowed the permission granted. Weirdly, for me, like I don't really, I think because I bleach it. It's more of like a whole thing, like if I just shave it off. I think that's a very different statement to me, because it's more just like I don't give a fuck about my hair, I just want it gone. But because I bleach it, it's a bit more of like a style. I shout I cut it and I bleached it because I like black. It very much suits you and thank you. I've seen you with her and I'm like, no, the but the shade it's so really works. It's because I've never known you like that exactly, but I would be if you were like I'm growing it out fully. I would be like, Whoa, why? Like I think this is the one. You know. Yeah, me too, me too, but I don't even think of it as like equivalent to Botox. But maybe for some people they feel the same way, because I don't really think if my hair as like something that I do for my appearance. It's just like part of me. That's so corny. If you found us just totally a relatable a work, you come back next Wednesday for a new episode. Until then, head to cheek Mediacom DNA you to tie you over until then. By Good Day,.

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